Comments for CIV FI http://civfi.com Sustainable Financing for Civilization Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:34:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 Comment on The Contract on California by Charles http://civfi.com/2011/12/27/the-contract-on-california/#comment-1785 Charles Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:34:58 +0000 http://civfi.com/?p=2597#comment-1785 I am still waiting. Perhaps you are on vacation I am still waiting. Perhaps you are on vacation

]]> Comment on The Contract on California by Charles http://civfi.com/2011/12/27/the-contract-on-california/#comment-1784 Charles Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:57:02 +0000 http://civfi.com/?p=2597#comment-1784 Please respond, I am losing my faith in your objectivity. Please respond, I am losing my faith in your objectivity.

]]> Comment on The Contract on California by Charles http://civfi.com/2011/12/27/the-contract-on-california/#comment-1783 Charles Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:56:01 +0000 http://civfi.com/?p=2597#comment-1783 "at least another 10% of these households have a state or local government worker living in them." "the net effect is they do not pay taxes." They don't? What about the other workers in the households? They don't pay taxes either?! I think you are carrying "net effect" to an unbelievable level. Then you are saying if a person working for Detroit gets free cars because his wages are paid by the car makers. “at least another 10% of these households have a state or local government worker living in them.” “the net effect is they do not pay taxes.”

They don’t? What about the other workers in the households? They don’t pay taxes either?!

I think you are carrying “net effect” to an unbelievable level. Then you are saying if a person working for Detroit gets free cars because his wages are paid by the car makers.

]]> Comment on America’s Forgotten 33% by Rex The Wonder Dog! http://civfi.com/2012/01/08/americas-forgotten-33/#comment-1781 Rex The Wonder Dog! Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:33:37 +0000 http://civfi.com/?p=2611#comment-1781 <b>Is it possible that your only remaining fan (Rex) is enough to support your pathetic attempt to steal retirement(s) from those who have earned it?</b> If you're a gov employee you did not "earn" your 3%@50 [insert multiplier here] $10 million "retirement", you stole it, ripped it off, jacked it from taxpayers. Is it possible that your only remaining fan (Rex) is enough to support your pathetic attempt to steal retirement(s) from those who have earned it?

If you’re a gov employee you did not “earn” your 3%@50 [insert multiplier here] $10 million “retirement”, you stole it, ripped it off, jacked it from taxpayers.

]]> Comment on America’s Forgotten 33% by ISthat http://civfi.com/2012/01/08/americas-forgotten-33/#comment-1766 ISthat Thu, 19 Jan 2012 04:16:01 +0000 http://civfi.com/?p=2611#comment-1766 Ah, you bring up immigration. Well, here are some facts: From the L. A. Times 1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card. 2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens. 4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers. 5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally. 6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in Garages. 7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border. 8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal. 9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking. 10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish. (There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County . ) --- But you CHOOSE to attack people who work for a living, rather than address the real tax sucking illegals of the world. You may try to come off as a conservative, but underneath you are a liberal apologist. Ah, you bring up immigration. Well, here are some facts:

From the L. A. Times
1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in Garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County . )

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But you CHOOSE to attack people who work for a living, rather than address the real tax sucking illegals of the world. You may try to come off as a conservative, but underneath you are a liberal apologist.

]]> Comment on The Contract on California by Charles http://civfi.com/2011/12/27/the-contract-on-california/#comment-1765 Charles Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:00:19 +0000 http://civfi.com/?p=2597#comment-1765 Please answer. If the source of income is taxes then the recipient in net effect does not not pay taxes? I assume that includes the armed forces. Please answer. If the source of income is taxes then the recipient in net effect does not not pay taxes? I assume that includes the armed forces.

]]> Comment on America’s Forgotten 33% by Editor http://civfi.com/2012/01/08/americas-forgotten-33/#comment-1764 Editor Sun, 15 Jan 2012 04:33:47 +0000 http://civfi.com/?p=2611#comment-1764 ISthat - crickets! Nice touch. Here are two posts that certainly reflect a bit of watching, they address immigration, and bullet train economics, respectively: http://civfi.com/2010/01/31/assessing-immigration-to-america/ http://civfi.com/2010/11/10/bullet-train-boondoggles/ ISthat – crickets! Nice touch. Here are two posts that certainly reflect a bit of watching, they address immigration, and bullet train economics, respectively:

http://civfi.com/2010/01/31/assessing-immigration-to-america/

http://civfi.com/2010/11/10/bullet-train-boondoggles/

]]> Comment on America’s Forgotten 33% by ISthat http://civfi.com/2012/01/08/americas-forgotten-33/#comment-1763 ISthat Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:08:15 +0000 http://civfi.com/?p=2611#comment-1763 Is that the sound of crickets I hear? Has this non-relevant site become even less relevant as hate spews forth from the writers pen? Is it possible that your only remaining fan (Rex) is enough to support your pathetic attempt to steal retirement(s) from those who have earned it? Is it possible to keep turning a blind eye to those who don't earn a living, but cost tax payers dearly; welfare, illegals, high speed rail worshipers, Rex, and so on. Does the fact that you weren't able to land that government job really burn you so bad? I don't expect the answer to any of these questions (esp the last) as you would have to be honest with your audience, and more importantly - honest with yourself. Is that the sound of crickets I hear? Has this non-relevant site become even less relevant as hate spews forth from the writers pen? Is it possible that your only remaining fan (Rex) is enough to support your pathetic attempt to steal retirement(s) from those who have earned it? Is it possible to keep turning a blind eye to those who don’t earn a living, but cost tax payers dearly; welfare, illegals, high speed rail worshipers, Rex, and so on. Does the fact that you weren’t able to land that government job really burn you so bad?

I don’t expect the answer to any of these questions (esp the last) as you would have to be honest with your audience, and more importantly – honest with yourself.

]]> Comment on The Contract on California by Charles http://civfi.com/2011/12/27/the-contract-on-california/#comment-1761 Charles Thu, 12 Jan 2012 00:57:36 +0000 http://civfi.com/?p=2597#comment-1761 Huh? How about a contractor's employee on a State Highway project. 100% of his salary and benefits come from State and Federal taxes. So the net effect is he doesn't pay taxes either? Huh?

How about a contractor’s employee on a State Highway project. 100% of his salary and benefits come from State and Federal taxes. So the net effect is he doesn’t pay taxes either?

]]> Comment on The Contract on California by Editor http://civfi.com/2011/12/27/the-contract-on-california/#comment-1760 Editor Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:27:25 +0000 http://civfi.com/?p=2597#comment-1760 Charles - welcome back - and thank you for asking for clarification on this. The point of saying that government workers don't pay taxes is not to suggest that people who work for the government don't shop and pay sales taxes, or own property and pay property taxes, or earn income and pay income tax. The point is that from a macroeconomic perspective, if a class of workers derives 100% of their income from taxes collected by government, then pay a percentage of that income back to the government in the form of taxes, the net effect is they do not pay taxes. Charles – welcome back – and thank you for asking for clarification on this. The point of saying that government workers don’t pay taxes is not to suggest that people who work for the government don’t shop and pay sales taxes, or own property and pay property taxes, or earn income and pay income tax. The point is that from a macroeconomic perspective, if a class of workers derives 100% of their income from taxes collected by government, then pay a percentage of that income back to the government in the form of taxes, the net effect is they do not pay taxes.

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